Monday, March 18, 2013
Thursday, February 21, 2013
Dry Wetland
Thursday, February 14, 2013
Don't Blow Your Stack, Part 3
On Monday, City Council voted 5 to 3 to suspend attorney-client privilege and release the findings of a ruling about the Trustee's authority to donate the stack to the City of El Paso or a non-profit.
The principle quesiton was: "Does the Trustee have the authority to convey at no cost, i.e., donate, the stack to another owner, e.g., the City or a non-profit organization formed for the purpose of preserving the stack?"
The answer: Yes, but. "The Trust does not appear to prohibit donation of the stack, if the donation will advance the objectives of the Trust. However, the proposed donation would be evaluated in light of other competing interests of the Trust, and requires approval of TCEQ and EPA."
Translation: TCEQ will never approve doing anything with the stack but demolishing it. Therefore, in early April, Puga will carry out the destruction of the stack barring any unforeseen events.
Save the Stacks issued this memo of Puga misinformation:
Nevertheless, many environmentally-concerned and conscientious citizens maintain that the safest solution is to bring the stacks down and that it is high time to do so since Mr. Puga gave efforts to save the stacks time to come up with funding. In a letter to Senator Rodriguez dated January 27, 2013 (pre-dating the decision by Council to release the ruling) environmental activist, Peggy McNiel, wrote:
"I was astounded and dismayed that you are supporting taxpayer funds being allocated to preserve the Asarco smokestacks.
This idea has already been presented to our city council and voted down. Taxpayers in the city of El Paso do not support funding the preservation of the Asarco smokestacks. Please do not take this outside the purview of the taxpaying voters who will have to pay for this if you succeed.
What is surprising is that you are not fighting for additional funds to further clean-up the site--including demolition of the stacks--to make it more conducive to all types of development not just commercial---a worthy endeavor for an environmentally conscious individual.
Some facts you may not be aware of:
1)Remediation of the site has always included demolition of the smokestacks because of their danger to the public. To quote from the TCEQ's engineer who authored the remediation plan. "The lack of routine maintenance will accelerate deterioration of the buildings and structures. The deterioration of the structures will pose a hazard to any unauthorized persons and, as is the case with the smokestacks and the bridge over I-10, will pose a direct hazard to the public."
This was written in 2009. It is 4 years later. Do you really want to champion funding of a "direct hazard to the public".?
2) The Lone Star Chapter of the Sierra Club regards the smokestacks as "toxic waste" in their public comments to the Assistant Attorney General, Environmental and Natural Resources Division, U.S. Department of Justice, Washington D.C.
Their public comments were written by one of their PHDs.
3) The Asarco stacks in both Tacoma, Wash. and Omaha, Nebraska were both demolished as part of their remediation plans for their sites. I talked to the on site manager for Citizens for a healthy bay, Ms. Leslie Rose, in Tacoma, Wash. regarding their stack demolition. She practically jumped out of the phone to say, "Controlled demolition is safer than leaving the stacks up and not properly maintaining them." She asks why would you want to leave the stacks as a liability for future generations. The Tacoma stacks were demolished according to their EPA directed remediation plan. She went on to say that if the stacks remain, someone is always responsible for costly maintenance. An uncontrolled, unplanned failure of the stacks could be catastrophic and end up killing people. Maybe, not now, but at some point, the stacks will have to be demolished.
The Asarco trustee has hired independent experts who put the cost to stabilize the 826 ft stack at $6 million up front and $100,000 to $150,000 per year ad infinitum. Later Mr. Puga said further up front wind stabilization would be required at an additional cost of at least $4 million. This is to adequately preserve the stacks.
The Save the Stacks group immediately rejected these costs of safety even before they had conducted a study. At the City Council meeting, their firm estimated the costs at $4 million over 50 years compared to the trustee's study that the cost would be $14 million plus the wind retrofitting of $4 million plus over 50 years. Puga has rejected their proposal as not adequate. Puga is the man I trust backed by the TCEQ and the EPA not some locals without the proper training and experience to judge which study is valid. The Save the Stacks hired firm admitted in the council meeting that they did not consider the threat of wind to toppling the stacks. Yet the Save the Stacks group continues to say it will only require $4 million.
4) Ms. Rose of Tacoma also offered that if the stacks had remained, no one would buy the property for development. This is the same objection reported by Puga in his initial attempt to find interested buyers.
El Paso needs taxpaying entities. We don't need a blighted site.
5) There is nothing remarkable about these stacks other than the extent of their pollution and cost of preservation. There are 31 taller stacks in the U.S. The tallest one is 1217 ft. in Homer, Pa. Of the 31, 21 stacks are 1000 ft. or taller. The Asarco stacks were not designed by Trost. They were built in 1966 in a standard manufacturing process.
6) In a poll conducted by an independent research firm for the El Paso, Times, 80% of the polled were against stack preservation if the taxpayer would be required to fund it. The Save the Stacks group keeps referring to a poll where 70% are for stack preservation. They have never referenced the research firm who conducted the poll, the sample size and the reliability factor.
7) Mr. Puga has given the public 2 years and extended deadlines twice to provide any group every opportunity to come up with the funding to safely preserve the stacks. The current group has not been able to come up with their own funding. So they embarked upon a scheme to offload the liability and cost to adequately and safely preserve the stacks onto the taxpayer. This was voted down in the El Paso City Council by a majority. Now this group is going to you Senator to extract funds from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Dept. for preservation of polluted stacks. At a time when our state parks are underfunded, why would anyone wish to cut additional funds from our mountains, beaches and parks to fund these polluted stacks? Help me.
I urge you to allow the original remediation plan to go forward and support the trustee, Mr. Puga, the TCEQ and the EPA to clean up the polluted site and demolish the polluted, dangerous smokestacks in the interests of the environment and the health and safety of the citizenry.
These are my own opinions most of which are shared by a group of us who are against stacks preservation. We are now about 60 and counting. All of us do not want our taxes--local, state or federal allocated to preserving the polluted smokestacks.
If you wish to meet with me and discuss this further, I would be happy to go over the extensive documents and references further.
Thank you for your service,
Peggy McNiel"
Friday, January 25, 2013
Asarco Trustee Puga to Speak at UTEP
Roberto Puga, P.G., Site Custodial Trustee Project Navigator, Ltd.
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 30, 2013
6:30 p.m. Meet and greet; 7:00 p.m. Presentation
Centennial Museum, UTEP Campus,
500 W. University Ave., El Paso (Map)
All are welcome.
For more information call:
Laurence 309-5419 or Liz 915-342-7630
Monday, January 21, 2013
Don't Blow Your Stack, Part 1
Thursday, November 29, 2012
For the Sake of the Environment - Save the Stacks
By now all of you have probably heard that City Council wants to preserve the stacks but not use any tax money or City indebtedness to do so. Read the Chris Roberts report.
A few thoughts:
Tuesday revealed that Puga is not a straight-shooter. He claims that there are buyers for the land if there are no stacks. Of course, some investors may say that they are interested but that doesn't mean a contract. It's all speculation at this time. In point of fact it will take several years to sell the land and that is plenty of time to work out financing which saves the stacks or do whatever.
Puga claimed that the entire land had to be sold together. As he was questioned on Tuesday, that claim was modified. The point of the matter is that he has discretion to dispose of the property however he as Trustee sees fit.
I keep hearing that the TCEQ really wants to bring the stacks down. Why? Again, I smell a cover-up - the need for a perfect crime.
Many of my readers were adamant that the stacks be taken down either because they are an eyesore or from a motivation of getting rid of the contaminants. Although I share their motivation - all of us who love the environment are so motivated - I fear that bringing the stacks down won't save us and future generations from nasty contaminants, it will actually make it more likely that those contaminants will compromise the ground water and eventually make their way into the Americas Canal and the Rio Grande.
There are some environmentalists (and I'm talking about trained biologists and geologists) who don't even want anyone walking over this land ever again. They won't agree with my suggestion that the stacks will be good for marketing potential commercial property and creating tourism. There's nasty stuff in those stacks. It has already been proven and admitted that chemicals used in warfare and radioactive wastes were burned there. HKN and Save the Stacks have demonstrated that the stacks are strong, straight and solid. Keep the poisons locked away rather than bringing them to the ground where, in time, they will contaminate our water supply.
Again the motive behind my reasoning is a love for the environment and the safety of humans and other living things. Unlike similar stacks that have been brought down around the country, the construction of the ASARCO stacks are totally different. Demolish and a malevolent jinn is out of the bottle. Our duty as stewards of the environment is to keep the beast locked up.
What is going to happen. The Byrd motion which passed when the Mayor joined 4 Council members to express the City's desire to keep the stacks will have some weight. What Puga needs to understand is that there are citizens who can find solutions and it will be good to work together. Now that we are talking about this issue in earnest, he may discover that many will realize that it will be much better environmentally to keep the strong, straight and solid stacks.
For the sake of our lives and health and the well-being of our environment I'm not going to leave this issue alone.
Monday, November 26, 2012
Save the Stacks!
Susie Byrd: district2@elpasotexas.gov
Emma Acosta: district3@elpasotexas.gov
Carl Robinson: district4@elpasotexas.gov
Dr. Michael Noe: district5@elpasotexas.gov
Eddie Holguin Jr.: district6@elpasotexas.gov
Steve Ortega: district7@elpasotexas.gov
Cortney Niland: district8@elpasotexas.gov
Mayor John Cook: mayor@elpasotexas.gov
Strong, Straight and Solid - the Engineering Reports
One thing for sure: they can never be used again to burn insidious or any other kind of waste. They are monuments now and not industrial machines.
Here are the HKN reports not included in the back-up material for City Council members as they consider tomorrow a resolution to save the stacks
Structural Analysis of ASARCO Stacks HKN ASARCO Stack Report Engineering Report Executive Summary about ASARCO Smoke Stacks
Strong, Straight and Solid - So Save the Stacks!
Thursday, September 6, 2012
Save the Stacks
Here's a message from Robert Ardovino who is leading the charge to save the Asarco stacks:
Tuesday, June 29, 2010
Plan El Paso Presentation Scheduled for Tomorrow Evening
The Plan El Paso team will give a Work-in-Progress presentation tomorrow evening, Wednesday, June 30, at the El Paso Main Public Library Auditorium, 501 N. Oregon. The Dover Kohl assembly of consultants will present all of the draft concepts, plans, renderings and preliminary regulating plans (zoning maps) for the ASARCO and transit sites.
"I can assure you that there will be a lot of very valuable information and its's really important that we get a good turn out so that we can get feedback from the attendees. We want to make sure we are on the right track before we return home to refine the plans."
"It was a wonderful experience to sit with folks from the neighborhood to dream and plan for the future of Five Points. There's so much potential, and the ideas were so great, that I hope the City and the private sector can help make it happen."
Making it happen is my concern. I had the opportunity to visit with 3 members of the team this past Sunday while we hiked together in the Franklin Mountains State Park. I shared my primary concern: You can do all these great designs that conserve natural space, contribute to walkability, etc., but if a developer comes along and wants to do things the old way, what can be done especially in the State of Texas that has such strong private property laws?
The answer in a nutshell is that the designs will serve not only as examples of how to do something better, but they will be a vision that can long guide us. Dover Kohl City Planner, Pam Stacy, pointed out that El Paso's dreams for urban park development began with the vision of the 1925 City Plan for El Paso. The team that Dover Kohl has put together includes economists, city planners, people who know issues regarding zoning and much more.
Frankly, if just a portion of the dreams that are now taking shape are realized, the City will be so much the better.
Texas Wildlife Urban Biologist for El Paso, Lois Balin, has been sharing a similar dream. Here is her presentation on conservation development:
Balin Conservation Development Design
Wednesday, June 23, 2010
Go Ahead - Make My Day

The Planning Department of El Paso and the Plan El Paso team of Dover, Kohl & Partners invited members of the Open Space Advisory Board to a meeting at the Open Design Studio at 2400 N. Oregon yesterday. I went with some skepticism based on my knowledge that not only is ASARCO property contaminated but so is all of the surrounding land - so much so that some believe that children in Anapra and Sunland Park suffer hyperactive disorders due to the effects of lead still in their environment. (Two of just a hand full of children that I met the other day were on Adderall.) I have my doubts as to how well the ASARCO toxins can be permanently contained and kept from our drinking water.
Friday, June 18, 2010
Before You Go to a Charrette
Thursday, June 3, 2010
Thursday, May 20, 2010
Puga Addresses Packed, Passionate Breakfast Meeting
At her public breakfast this morning, Representative Ann Morgan Lilly hosted Roberto Puga, the ASARCO Site Custodial Trustee. The meeting was marked by controversy and passion on all sides and what I am about to post is only a snapshot.